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post Jan 19 2009, 04:44 AM
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Well here's my issue-
Cows produce 18 or 80 percent (someone checks stats) of carbon dioxide and global warming problems more than all transportation vehicles combined. Plants produce air and you tend to that only and fish are being forced into smaller being and faster evolution.

So whats the plus plus of vegetarians unless you're a wacky PETA member.

Shouldn't this be taken one step at a time instead of refusing to eat cows shouldn't you eat smaller portions to eliminate demand and eliminate cows and C.D.

Anyone want to comment any vegetarian want to respond.


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post Feb 25 2009, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (-K.U.- @ Jan 19 2009, 04:44 AM) *
Well here's my issue-
Cows produce 18 or 80 percent (someone checks stats) of carbon dioxide and global warming problems more than all transportation vehicles combined. Plants produce air and you tend to that only and fish are being forced into smaller being and faster evolution.

So whats the plus plus of vegetarians unless you're a wacky PETA member.

Shouldn't this be taken one step at a time instead of refusing to eat cows shouldn't you eat smaller portions to eliminate demand and eliminate cows and C.D.

Anyone want to comment any vegetarian want to respond.


PETA is an American organisation, to my knowledge everyone on here is from the UK... I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here, you seem to be saying on the one hand the amount of cows in the world is a bad thing, whilst maintaining being a vegetarian is bad because vegetarians are somehow responsible for this. If I'm right in reading into what you're saying, and I'm not entirely sure I am, its the demand for meat that causes more and more cows to be brought into the world as a means to satifysing this demand; therefore the burden of guilt lies with the meat eaters and producers not vegetarians; I'm unsure how you could see it any other way. Anyway, I think for most people their reasoning for being a vegetarian is not so pragmatic, they don't like being the cause of suffering for other living creatures; which is fair enough.

I'm not a vegetarian by the way...


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post Feb 25 2009, 03:54 AM
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I am finding that I am eating lesss and less meat these days. For a couple of reasons. One is meat seems to take so much longer to go through my digestive sytem and I feel less bloated eating more vegetables. Anothe is, as much as I used to really like eating the skin on a chicken, and pork crackling. I was one time looking at the pork crackling and thinking how much it looks like human skin and then felt sick... It put me right off of eating any animal skin..... And I do enjoy most vegetables and salads...


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post Feb 25 2009, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (kaya_laydee @ Feb 25 2009, 03:54 AM) *
I am finding that I am eating lesss and less meat these days. For a couple of reasons. One is meat seems to take so much longer to go through my digestive sytem and I feel less bloated eating more vegetables. Anothe is, as much as I used to really like eating the skin on a chicken, and pork crackling. I was one time looking at the pork crackling and thinking how much it looks like human skin and then felt sick... It put me right off of eating any animal skin..... And I do enjoy most vegetables and salads...


That's because pigs are the closest things to humans there is. My girlfriend is doing forensics and when it comes to testing the effects of things on humans they use pigs wink.gif I eat meat but I've tried in the past to go vegetarian. If the whole world was vegetarian there would be no people in the world going hungry so that's more of a reason. To be honest though they're going on about Carbon dioxide but how did they say survive like a hundred years ago? If the world wants to halt Global Warming they need to take an active role in sorting it out such as limiting the amount of cars etc. I was in Amsterdam last February and was astounded about the lack of cars there were, it was really nice to see somewhere that managed without cars and stuff wink.gif


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post Feb 25 2009, 12:24 PM
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why would nobody starve if the whole world was vegetarian?


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post Feb 25 2009, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Adam Weishaupt @ Feb 25 2009, 12:24 PM) *
why would nobody starve if the whole world was vegetarian?


Because people wouldn't eat meat meaning there would be less animals such as cows which would leave more food for everyone else wink.gif


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post Feb 25 2009, 05:19 PM
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Sorry dude, but that's nonsense. There is more than enough food to go around as it is, highlighted by the fact that almost one in 3 people worldwide is overweight or obese. The problem is not the amount of food being produced, the problem is the way it is distributed, there are far too many people eating and throwing away far too much food and food is not easily distributed to those who are starving. These are not issues that could be solved merely by removing meat from our diets.

Meat is part of a balanced diet, it is healthy and vegetarians on average report more health problems than those who eat a balanced diet of meat and vegetables.

If you don't like the taste of meat, fair enough, but ethically, I don't see any valid reasons for someone choosing to remove meat from their diet that aren't based on false assumptions.


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post May 3 2009, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (-K.U.- @ Jan 19 2009, 05:44 AM) *
Well here's my issue-
Cows produce 18 or 80 percent (someone checks stats) of carbon dioxide and global warming problems more than all transportation vehicles combined. Plants produce air and you tend to that only and fish are being forced into smaller being and faster evolution.

So whats the plus plus of vegetarians unless you're a wacky PETA member.

Shouldn't this be taken one step at a time instead of refusing to eat cows shouldn't you eat smaller portions to eliminate demand and eliminate cows and C.D.

Anyone want to comment any vegetarian want to respond.



This makes no sense? why are you linking vegetarianism to global warming issues, as if global warming is a reason for someone becoming a vegetarian?

most vegetarians i've met just dont like meat and have never mentioned global warming


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post May 6 2009, 10:13 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7942479.stm

Its an even debate

I think the thing with meat is that people tend to think of it as the central focus of a dish and forget to think about all the other nutrients they need. Veg and things tend to get left on the side. For example, your average hamburger does not come with a sufficient amount of salad to make it a balanced meal. Not that I'm saying that all vegetarians are healthy because they don't eat meat-many replace their meat with cheese and suffer. I'm just suggesting one outlook on vegetarainism


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post May 9 2009, 03:27 PM
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I personally don't see vegetarians as odd people, people don't eat meat for loads of reasons. I do think that in some humans though, we literally crave flesh once developed a taste for it.

I've always found this interesting though, if you eat fruit and veg you are eating something with life. Meat however is eating something that is dead.


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post May 16 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (Intra_B @ May 9 2009, 04:27 PM) *
I've always found this interesting though, if you eat fruit and veg you are eating something with life. Meat however is eating something that is dead.

That's an interesting way of looking at it, One of my hard core vegetarian friends says that if you eat meat, you're eating all the hormones and suffering that the animal went through-which is a bit extreme but there you go


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post Jun 7 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (wot_r_u_thinkin? @ May 16 2009, 10:06 AM) *
That's an interesting way of looking at it, One of my hard core vegetarian friends says that if you eat meat, you're eating all the hormones and suffering that the animal went through-which is a bit extreme but there you go


I have a vegan friend who believes this too....

I was in a Bar last night that also serves food and they had the funniest menu I have ever seen... They had tried so hard to make the menu 'politically correct' it was hilarious.

The vegetarian menu was

' A bean burger served with salad and chips, and 50p extra for a slice of bacon on the burger'


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QUOTE (Intra_B @ May 9 2009, 04:27 PM) *
I personally don't see vegetarians as odd people, people don't eat meat for loads of reasons. I do think that in some humans though, we literally crave flesh once developed a taste for it.

I've always found this interesting though, if you eat fruit and veg you are eating something with life. Meat however is eating something that is dead.


I watched a health show once, where they had 'lab rats'-basically taking super fit people and making them eat a slobs diet for a week. They had one man who was pesdo-vegetarian and had him eating red meat 2-3 times a day and by the end of the week he was depressed and had severe mood swings. Just like you said, he started to crave the red meat and it made him feel sluggish, irritable etc etc.


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